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 Post subject: Coheed and Cambria?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:53 am 
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So heard two songs acoustic and live on Lex and Terry. First i heard how their music is just one big sci-fi story and i was interested.

So after hearing them acoustic, i wondered if i would like them electric... The singer i am stil iffy, but its leaning more towards good....

What order are their CDs storywise?

Anyone know a place i can get them REALLY REALLY cheap to see how i like them?

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I can get you them REALLY REALLY cheap over aim (s/n: basinpup) I'll send 'em your way for a minimal fee.

The albums tell a big story, in five parts (only one has yet to be released). The order is as follows:

Part I - (Release TBA)
Part II - The Second Stage Turbine Blade
Part III - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth : 3
Part IV - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV : Volume I - From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
Part V - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV : Volume II - No World For Tomorrow

I can send you a few songs to see if you like them, and if you dig I can send you everything. Also check out their myspace in the meantime, they have a few good tracks up there:

http://www.myspace.com/coheedandcambria

[edit] - oh and because their album titles are so long, they're usually abbreviated when people talk about them:

The Second Stage Turbine Blade -> "Second Stage"
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth : 3 -> "In Keeping Secrets"
Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV : Volume I - From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness -> "Good Apollo"
Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV : Volume II - No World For Tomorrow -> "No World for Tomorrow"

Just to make things easier.

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I do indeed like them so far.

So, they just have one album out so far? You said only 1 part of the story has been released.

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Arca Spiff (12:42:06 PM): you said only 1 part of the story was out
basinpup (12:42:22 PM): did i?
basinpup (12:42:32 PM): damn let me check
Arca Spiff (12:42:30 PM): on the board
Arca Spiff (12:42:34 PM): it confused me a lot
basinpup (12:42:47 PM): oh
basinpup (12:42:51 PM): no you read it wrong
basinpup (12:43:00 PM): only one has yet to be released
basinpup (12:43:06 PM): meaning the other four have been released
Arca Spiff (12:43:06 PM): OH!
Arca Spiff (12:43:08 PM): ha ha ha
basinpup (12:43:16 PM): lrn2read
Arca Spiff (12:43:22 PM): i R teh 5uck

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Yeah, part one of the story is the only one to not be released so far. The next album is supposed to be a prequel to the story so far.

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so the next album is like, part 0?

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illblamesum1else wrote:
so the next album is like, part 0?

part 1

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Bubble Man wrote:
illblamesum1else wrote:
so the next album is like, part 0?

part 1

oh. i misread what vegi was saying. he said prequel so i thought it was taking place before the intended story, meaning a part before the 5 parts. but he meant prequel to what has been released already

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illblamesum1else wrote:
Bubble Man wrote:
illblamesum1else wrote:
so the next album is like, part 0?

part 1

oh. i misread what vegi was saying. he said prequel so i thought it was taking place before the intended story, meaning a part before the 5 parts. but he meant prequel to what has been released already

yeah your just an idiot

on a side note i was wondering if they might make the first part 2 albums - so they can release more albums before the story's over. Cause once they story is done... where do they go from there?

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they could start a new story.

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but then they'd have to change their band name...

(coheed and cambria are the two main characters of the story)

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I've tried so hard, but I don't see what makes this band different from all other emo, besides the fact that they claim some sort of 'progressivism'.

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illblamesum1else wrote:
they could start a new story.


They could also just stop making music. :redv:

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I've tried so hard, but I don't see what makes this band different from all other emo, besides the fact that they claim some sort of 'progressivism'.

I use to think so too, it wasn't until their third album where I gave them an actual listen and realized they were really good. I went back and listened to all their earlier stuff and while yeah, some early stuff does sound a bit emo-ish, the subject matter definitely isn't. He's not singing about how much he hates life, he's singing about genetically engineered super humans fucking up people in a futuristic universe.

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If i could get past the vocals Id might be able to listen to half a song

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If i could get past the vocals Id might be able to listen to half a song


Ditto. How come only Europe has real vocalists these days?

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Coheed and Cambria < Dream Theater

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Dream Theater=overrated

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Yeah, but even *then*, DT > CC ;D

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Eh, personal preference I guess. Even considering that their latest album is sort of weak, I'd still rather listen to Coheed than Dream Theater.

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Systematic Chaos sucked bigtime, I agree, but one album out of ten is not that much.

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Systematic Chaos sucked bigtime, I agree, but one album out of ten is not that much.


I love it <.<;

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Kinda late in this thread, but isn't there a comic that accompanies the albums, too? I heard the lyrics don't make sense unless you're reading it, sometimes.

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The story is confusing, but mostly because the band is tight lipped about what is going on. The only concrete information is that from the comic books and from people's interpretation of the songs. Here's a good introduction:

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God created the Fence and the Keywork, a vast structure of Twelve Sectors and seventy-eight planets, all powered and held in place by giant star-transformers called the Stars of Sirius. The Fence is in fact those transformers and actual visable beams of light that run through all of the planets. God created three races to live in this world, Mage, Prise, and Man. He gave Mages the right to rule over man, the man the right to live under the safety of the Mages, and he gave Prise the task of guarding the Keywork. He then left and gave a prophecy on when he'd return. Well, a head mage was appointed to each of the Twelve Sectors, but power corrupted them leading them to disputes and wars, and also into manipulating Man as they could. When the Prise tried to intervene the Mages united against the Prise and defeated them. In the end, all of the sectors were put under the rule of Wilhelm Ryan, who would become known as the Supreme Tri-Mage.

Prise and Man realized that they couldn't just overthrow the Mages, so they realized they had to look out for when God would come. The Prise set to this task, and Man was to keep watch over the Mages. However, Man was incapable in many ways of doing so. The Prise, and a few of Man--notably Dr. Leonard Hohenberger, devised a way of watching over Mage. A new type of almost superman was created called the Interceptive Recon Operative (IRO)-Bot. The first three were Cambria (Knowledge), Coheed (Beast), and Jesse (Inferno). Jesse was a clone of Hohenberger himself (obviously with some enhanced capabilities). However, as the Mages are aware of much that goes on in the Keywork, the IRO-Bots were passed off as an anti-terrorist team. In secret though, Hohenberger and his team had come up with an ultimate weapon, the Monstar virus. If triggered, the Beast would be capable of shutting down the Stars of Sirius and bringing about chaos to the Keywork and Ryan's reign. It was more of a scare tactic, a "don't mess with us or you're screwed" type of deal. Unfortunately for Man, the secret was discovered before the KBI team was put into place. Fearing for the safety of his creations, Dr. Hohenberger wrote his team of scientists telling them to erase Coheed and Cambria's memories and to hide them with others, while Jesse was to keep his memories and remain to carry out the plan when ready. It was done, and likely Hohenberger's death was staged (or really done, but intentionally) to be the result of the Beast going mad and killing him. Coheed and Cambria went off to live their lives, and Jesse disappeared into the unknown, and began to work on his own, creating new IRO-Bot forms to help aid Man. One of these is Chase. The IRO-Bots he has are still children. The reason why Chase was upset at the start of the comic was because Jesse had destroyed one of his IRO-Bots in the making because there was a defect with it.
Some twenty years later there's a movement stirring in Sector Twelve. A mage (perhaps the head of that sector) named Mariah is beginning to challenge Ryan's power. She treats man justly as God intended, and she is called the Messiah, and she's slowly but steadily gaining a following. Ryan sees her as a grand threat, but war hasn't broken out yet. Jesse could possibly be working with Mariah.


That all happens before the first album (The Second Stage Turbine Blade). The Events of that album are very well known because a series of comic books has been released detailing the events. The series is called The Amory Wars, So far 4 comic books have been released (out of 5) to discuss the first part of the album. The second series of 5 will be about the second part of the album. Later comics will focus on the other albums.

The Amory Wars: Discusses the Comic Books and story in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amory_Wars

The Second Stage Turbine Blade (Comic) - describes the events of the comics that have been released thus far:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second ... 28comic%29

Descriptions of the other albums (based off people's interpretations of the songs) can be found on the following forum threads:

Second Stage/In Keeping Secrets:
http://forums.cobaltandcalcium.com/show ... hp?t=13132

Good Apollo:
http://forums.cobaltandcalcium.com/show ... hp?t=17254

No World For Tomorrow:
http://forums.cobaltandcalcium.com/show ... hp?t=33227

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Oh and here are the covers for the first four comics:

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